4th Essay???

Sorry I missed class last Saturday....What will our fourth essay consist off???

DEBATE

I AM REAL EXCITED ABOUT OR DEBATE TEAMS. I'M NOT SURE I WANT TO STATE MY OPINION OPENLY. ABORTION IS SUTCH A HOT TOPIC THAT EVERY ONE FEELS THEIR CHOICE TO BE PRO OR CON IS THE CORRECT CHOICE FOR EVERY ONE TO FOLLOW. WHAT I MEAN IS EVERY INDIVIDUAL FEELS HE KNOWS THE CORRECT ANSWER. SOME ARE TO INTO GETTING INVOLVED IN OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS THAT IT UPSETS ME TO MUCH. THERE MAY BE A TIME IN CLASS WHEN WE ARE DEBATING WHERE I MAY HAVE TO STEP OUT OF CLASS SO I DONT SAY SOMETHING RUDE OR MAKE SOME ONE CRY WITH MY SARCASM. AT THE SAME TIME I FEEL IT IS A GREAT OPPERTUNITY TO SEE WHAT EVERY ONE ELSE THINKS, JUST AS LONG AS NO ONE PUSHES THEIR DEBATE FEELINGS ON ONE ANOTHER.

SECOND TIME AROUND

AFTER OUR DISCUSSION IN CLASS I WENT HOME AND WATCHED THE MOVIE "APOCOLYPS NOW" A SECOND TIME. I PAYED CLOSE ATENTION TO THE DETAILS WE DISCUSSED IN CLASS. I FELT DSCUSSING IT WAS MORE HELPFUL TO GET ME TO DISTINGUISH THE NECESSARY AND CLUTTER SO I CAN GET MY ESSAY READY. I ALSO TOOK NOTES. I GOT CONFUSED ON THE NAMES OF THE CHARACTERS THE FIRST TIME AROUND. I ALL I FEEL THE MOVIE WAS MORE REALISTIC AND MORE DETAILED THAN THE BOOK. I FELT THE BOOK WAS BOARING AND I COULDNT CONCENTRATE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

MLA Fomat for Work Cited

To get a list of MLA Styles for Bibliographic Citation, you can go to the Mt. San Antonio College,
go to the right of the site and you will see: Find Help, go to Library handouts,
then go to: Modern Language Association (MLA) Citation Sheet. (Print it out for your records).
This should help you with any questions you may have. Good Luck!
FYI, they update this sheet about once or twice a year.

Online MLA Style Guides...

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In completing your research papers...I thought this might help in the process. All of this information can be found on one comprehensive website offered by Perdue University. Look it up or think it up and find it on this online english guide.
Try it out...Cut & Paste.

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http://owl.english.purdue.edu (has everything)

Guide to electronic citations:
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Showing how to cite from other sources (film in particular):
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Have Fun Guys!!!

Mary Ann
Enlgish 1A

Debate

I think the debates will be simple enough. Do some research there is plenty of information, pro and con avialble through various sources. The library at Cal Poly Pomona has a section were you can look up old news paper articles to support you stand. Maybe even some presidential debates have covered both topics.

Debate

Have any of you had the opportunity to debate before? In my Speech class we had debated a few times.

Essay's

Has anyone had problems sending or receiving their papers from Bill. I still have not received my grade for the first paper. Maybe I'm sending it wrong.

Debate

I can only speak for myself when i say this, I feel it will be hard to argue a topic I am not passionate about.....does anyone agree with me?

Debate

Since we are in teams for the debates, do teams go up against teams?

Mark Twain

h-h, Rogers is like I used to be, when I was married. There were times, when I was careless, careless in my dress. When I got older, you know, how uncomfortable your wife canget, when you are going away without her superintendence. once when my wife could not go with me she always went with me, when she could. I always did meet that kind of luck.I was going to Washington once a long time ago in Mr. Cleveland's first administration and she could not go but in her anxiety, that i should not desecrate the house, she made preparation. She knew that there was to be a reception of those authors at the white house at seven o'clock in the evening. She said," if I should tell you now, what I want to ask of you". You would forget it before you get to Washington and therefore, I have written it on a card and you will find it in your dress vest pocket, when you are dressing at the Arlington. When you are dressing to see the president, I never thought of it again until I was dressing and I felt in that pocket and took it out and it said in a kind of imploring way" dont wear your arctics in the white house".

Posted by BC at 8:53 PM

An Excercise Corrected

The slide was shot back. The penitent emerged from the side of the box; the farther side was drawn. A woman entered quietly and deftly where the first penitent had knelt. The faint murmur began again.

He could still leave the chapel. He could stand up, put one foot before the other, and walk out softly, and then run-run-run swiftly through the dark streets. He could still escape from the shame. Had it been any terrible crime but that one sin, had it been murder--little fiery flakes fell and touched him at all points: shameful thoughts, shameful words, shameful acts. Shame covered him wholly, like fine glowing ashes falling continually. To say it in words, his soul stifling and helpless would cease to be.

The slide was shot back. A penitent emerged from the farther side of the box. The near side was drawn. A penitent entered where the other penitent had come out. A soft whispering noise floated in vaporous cloudlets out of the box./; It was the woman, soft whispering cloudlets, soft whispering vapor, whispering and vanishing.

teachers comments for essay

there are some reviews on the movie. look on the right hand side and click on apocalypse now and there a good explanation on it

Apocalypse Now / Heart of Darkness

I decided to write about the ambitions that we can see in some people's character in the movie Apocalypse Now and the book on Heart of Darkness. I will compare these two and explain how some people or som ideas can take the other people's lives

reflection of movie

I went home after last weeks discusin on the movie and saw it again. This time I looked for the details that were discussed in class like the description of the hotel and what was seen left on the desk,a picture of his wife, passport, etc. I payed attention to the whole picture not just the charictors talking in the plot. If you look in the background while the charictors are speaking you'll see the great detail in the back drop; that helps to open your imagination and thought of the horrific torture these people endoured on both sides, the soldiers and the vietnamiese. You almost can't help but feel for the poor vietnamies who lost so much and for the soldiers who went in on a mission and had to kill or be killed.

info on apocalypse now review

I was absent when the professor gave the movie review. Can somebody pleassse give me a feedback, I would greatly appreciated.

Excercise VI Mary Shelley Again

More spare parts from Frankenstein. Proceed in the interests of science!

it was on a dreary night of november that i beheld the accomplishment of my toils with an anxiety that almost amounted to agony i collected the instruments of life around me that i might infuse a spark of being into the lifeless thing that lay at my feet it was already one in the morning the rain pattered dismally against the panes and my candle was nearly burnt out when by the glimmer of the half extinguished light i saw the dull yellow eye of the creature open it breathed hard and a convulsive motion agitated its limbs

how can i describe my emotions at this catastrophe or how delineate the wretch whom with such infinite pains and care i had endeavoured to form his limbs were in roportion and i had selected his features as beautiful beautiful great god his yellow skin scarcely covered the work of muscles and arteries beneath his hair was of a lustrous black and flowing his teeth of a pearly whiteness but these luxuriances only formed a more horrid contrast with his watery eyes that seemed almost of the same colour as the dun-white sockets in which they were set his shrivelled complexion and straight black lips

Excercise V. Mary Shelley's Interjections

Interjections from Frankenstein, by Mary Wollestonecraft (Godwin) Shelley

These are unpunctuated passages that involve interjections -- that is, the narrator interrupts himself. You may find some of them somewhat awkward even after punctuation.

i will not lead you on unguarded and ardent as i then was
to your destruction and infallible misery


i did not watch the blossom or the expanding leaves sights
which before always yielded me supreme delight so deeply
was i engrossed in my occupation.

there for with your leave my sister i will put some trust in preceding navigators snow and frost are banished

the cold is not excessive if you are wrapped in furs a dress which i have already adopted for there is a great difference between walking the deck and remaining seated motionless for hours when no exercise prevents the blood from actually freezing in the veins

i am practically industrious painstaking a workman to execute with perseverance and labour but besides this there is a love for the marvellous a belief in the marvellous intertwined in all my projects which hurries me out of the common pathways of men even to the wild sea and unvisited regions i am about to explore

in the majestic and wondrous scenes which surrounded our swiss home the sublime shapes of the mountains the changes of the seasons tempest and calm the silence of winter and the life and turbulence of our alpine summers she found ample scope for admiration and delight

chance or rather the evil influence the angel of destruction which asserted omnipotent sway over me from the moment i turned my reluctant steps from my fathers door led me first to m krempe professor of natural philosophy

such were the professors words rather let me say such the words
of the devil of the fate enounced to destroy me.

for a long time i was their only care my mother had much desired to have a daughter but i continued their single offspring when i was about five years old while making an excursion beyond the frontiers of italy they passed a week on the shores of the lake of como their benevolent disposition often made them enter the cottages of the poor this to my mother was more than a duty it was a necessity a passion remembering what she had suffered and how she had been relieved for her to act in her turn
the guardian angel to the afflicted during one of their walks a poor cot in the foldings of a vale attracted their notice as being singularly disconsolate while the number of half clothed children gathered about it spoke of penury in its worst shape one day when my father had gone by himself to milan my mother accompanied by me visited this abode she found a peasant and his wife hard working bent down by care and labour distributing a scanty meal to five hungry babes among these there was one which attracted my mother far above all the rest she appeared of a different stock the four others were darkeyed hardy little vagrants this child was thin and very fair her hair was the brightest living gold and despite the poverty of her clothing seemed to set a crown of distinction on her head her brow was clear and ample her blue eyes cloudless and her lips and the moulding of her face so expressive of sensibility and sweetness that none could behold her without looking on her as of a distinct species a being heaven sent and bearing a celestial stamp in all her features


Paragraph - 137 words.

when my father returned from milan he found playing with me
in the hall of our villa a child fairer than pictured cherub
a creature who seemed to shed radiance from her looks and whose form
and motions were lighter than the chamois of the hills the apparition
was soon explained with his permission my mother prevailed
on her rustic guardians to yield their charge to her they were fond
of the sweet orphan her presence had seemed a blessing to them
but it would be unfair to her to keep her in poverty and want
when providence afforded her such powerful protection
they consulted their village priest and the result was
that elizabeth lavenza became the inmate of my parents' house
my more than sisterthe beautiful and adored companion
of all my occupations and my pleasures

Paragraph 185 words

such were the professors words rather let me say such the words of the fate enounced to destroy me as he went on i felt as if my soul were grappling with a palpable enemy one by one the various keys were touched which formed the mechanism of my being
chord after chord was sounded and soon my mind was filled with one thought one conception one purpose so much has been done exclaimed the soul of frankenstein more far more will i achieve treading in the steps already marked i will pioneer a new way
explore unknown powers and unfold to the world the deepest mysteries of creation

i closed not my eyes that night my internal being was in a state of insurrection and turmoil i felt that order would thence arise but i had no power to produce it by degrees after the mornings dawn sleep came i awoke and my yesternights thoughts were as a dream there only remained a resolution to return to my ancient studies and to devote myself to a science for which i believed myself to possess a natural talent

Excercise IV Mark Twain & the Railroad Men

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Twain Without Punctuation

Adapted from ROGERS AND RAILROADS

Banquet speech for H. H. ROGERS BY THE BUSINESS MEN OF
NORFOLK, VA., CELEBRATING THE OPENING OF THE VIRGINIAN RAILWAY,
APRIL, 3, 1909

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h h rogers is like i used to be when i was married there were times when i was careless careless in my dress when i got older you know how uncomfortable your wife can
get when you are going away without her superintendence once when my
wife could not go with me she always went with me when she could
i always did meet that kind of luck i was going to washington once a
long time ago in mr clevelands first administration and she could not
go but in her anxiety that i should not desecrate the house she made
preparation she knew that there was to be a reception of those authors
at the white house at seven o clock in the evening she said if i
should tell you now what i want to ask of you you would forget it before
you get to washington and therefore i have written it on a card and
you will find it in your dress vest pocket when you are dressing at the
arlington when you are dressing to see the president i never thought
of it again until i was dressing and i felt in that pocket and took it
out and it said in a kind of imploring way dont wear your arctics in
the white house

Excercise III Douglass

This is a single paragraph from Frederick Douglass's Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass. It's an account of a man's escape from slavery and his struggle to enlighten and free others. But here it's missing punctuation.

Watch this one. It starts slow, but the end is pretty darn complex.

everything looked clean new and beautiful i saw few or no dilapidated houses with poverty-stricken inmates no half-naked children and bare-footed women such as i had been accustomed to see in hillsborough easton st michaels and baltimore the people looked more able stronger healthier and happier than those of maryland i was for once made glad by a view of extreme wealth without being saddened by seeing extreme poverty but the most astonishing as well as the most interesting thing to me was the condition of the colored people a great many of whom like myself had escaped thither as a refuge from the hunters of men i found many who had not been seven years out of their chains living in finer houses and evidently enjoying more of the comforts of life than those of the average slaveholders in maryland i will venture to assert that my friend mr nathan johnson of whom i can say with a grateful heart i was hungry and he gave me meat i was thirsty and he gave me drink i was a stranger and he took me in lived in a neater house dined at a better table read more and better understood the moral religious and political character of the nation than nine-tenths of the slaveholders in talbot county maryland

Excercise II, Hemingway

Here are a few paragraphs out of a short story by Ernest Hemingway. Of course, I've butchered them by taking out all of the punctuation. Try any or all of them.

"The Big Two-Hearted River," Part II. Complete Short Stories. New York: Scribners, 1962.

175 words

while the water was heating in the pot he took an empty bottle and went down over the edge of the high ground to the meadow the meadow was wet with dew and nick wanted to catch grasshoppers for bait before the sun dried the grass he found plenty of good grasshoppers they were at the base of the grass stems sometimes they clung to a grass stem they were cold and wet with the dew and could not jump until the sun warmed them nick picked them up taking only the medium sized brown ones and put them into the bottle he turned over a log and just under the shelter of the edge were several hundred hoppers it was a grasshopper lodging house nick put about fifty of the medium browns into the bottle while he was picking up the hoppers the others warmed in the sun and commenced to hop away they flew when they hopped at first they made one flight and stayed stiff when they landed as though they were dead

(222)

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p 209. 309 words. This is his 3 paragraphs.
Big-Hearted River: Part I.


the train went on up the track out of sight around one of the hills of burnt timber nick sat down on the bundler of canvas and bedding the baggage man had pitched out of the door of th baggage car there was no town nothing but the rails and the burned over country the thirteen saloons that had lined the one street of seney had not left a trace the foundations of the mansion house hotel stuck up above the ground the stone was chipped and split by the fire it was all that was left of the town of seney even the surface had been burned off the ground

Nick looked at the burned over stretch of hillside where he had expected to find the scattered houses of the town and then walked down the railroad to the bridge over the river the river was there it swirled against the log spiles of the bridges nick looked down into the clear brown water colored form the pebbly bottom and watched the trout keeping themselves steady in the current with wavering fins as he watched them they changed their positions by quick angles only to hold steady in the fast water again. Nick watched them a long time

he watched them holding themselves with their noses into the current many trout in deep fast moving water slightly distorted as he watched far down through the glassy convex surface of the pool, its surface pushing and swelling smooth against the resistance of the log driven piles of the bridge at the bottom of the pool were the big trout nick did not see them at first then he saw them at the bottom of the pool big trout looking to hold themselves on the gravel bottom in a varying mist of gravel and sand raised in spurts by the current

Punctuation Excercises

For those who don't feel comfortable blogging about readings, here's another option. I have started to upload punctuation excercises. They're paragraphs or sentences that are not punctuated. The way to an entry is as follows:

1) Have a look at the excercise and see if you can work out how all of it or part of it should be punctuated. Bear in mind that you're not to change the wording on these, just the punctuation.

2) Write how to resolve one or more punctuation decision in the excercise. Your explanation should include several things:
a) The punctuated passage. Go ahead and give enough of the text, with punctuation, to show what you mean.
b) Any standard rules that were involved in your decision
c) Any references you used. (Copy and paste helpful URL's!)
d) Why your decision is right. Don't just cite the correct, rule, though that's a good start. Explain why the text works better, why it's clearer with that particular piece of punctuation.

Apocalypse Now & Heart of Darkness themes

There are many themes one might pick out of Heart of Darkness or Apocalypse Now. The following suggestions by no means cover everything. It's also possible to start with a topic or theme you find interesting and work backward -- if you want to write about race, murder, dying, class distinctions, US foreign policy, disabilities in veterans, covert operations, insanity, or many other things, you can probably find scenes and characters to illustrate whatever points you want to make. Otherwise, you might begin by picking a particularly interesting passage or scene, and analyzing it closely to unfold its rich message and to make a particular point. Or you could write about the busines of filmaking, writing, acting, or editing that went into this movie or into Heart of Darkness: why does Willard keep explaining what's happening? How does the movie relate to the book? Why does Coppola decide to show such horrible scenes and keep them in the background, like Willard casually complaining about having to track down Air Cavalry while bloody families pass by the camara, and the camara doesn't even bother to focus on them. Or you might do something similar by following a particular character or concentrate on a particular type of activity, like killing or loyalty or relations between men and women. The key in all cases is to find the point you want to make, and to pick a moment, character, or other focus that gives you the information to properly illustrate and discuss what you want to say.

As an example of a moment that one might write about, in class we returned several times to the moment when Willard slaughters the wounded vietnamese woman in the sampan. Our discussion involved various impressions of the relative value of a military objective and military discipline, and the moral injunctions against murder. Even though that scene only lasted a few moments in the film, one could write many pages about it because the characters' reactions relate to complex factors that drive important personal and political decisions. By making an observation about some general principle in the scene, one gets focus and relevance, and also gives oneself enough latitude to write a whole essay, or even more. If one just describes the scene, there might not be much to write about. But if one starts to discuss the issues of morals in a wartime situation, things get tough, and one has a chance to make a real statement. At that point, it's possible also to use historical examples or current events that relate to the point as well.

Here are a few other key moments that occur to me:

1. Williard in the hotel, the evidence of his problems, and his relation to his wife and to his mission.

2. Intelligence at Na Trang, the layers of secrecy and the motivations for the mission. Murder charges during wartime, like, say, the My Lai Massacre under Lt. Calley in Vietnam.

3. Air Cav, Kilgore's obsession with surfing, the destruction of the two Vietnamese villages, the use of Wagner and of airstrikes.

4. The USO show and bargaining the fuel for the women.

5. The bridge and the edge of actual combat.

6. The photojournalist and the reception at Kurtz's compound. What's involved in being a follower?

7. Kurtz himself -- his theories; his appraisal of war; his sanity or insanity as opposed to the sanity or insanity of Willard, Kilgore, or the folks at Na Trang.

And there are others. One might start with a current event and look for connections too.

Next Essay

After our dicussion in class, I wondered what I could write about. I thought about taking a scene from the movie, focus on a character,the symbolisims,tones, etc. We didn't get a chance to talk about some themes...so does anybody have any thoughts on any themes? Since I came in a little late, what did Mr. Crandall mention about the essay format? I know it has to be I think 4-6 pgs. I can't remember, so if anybody knows can you let me know...Thank you!

Apocalypse Now

I agree with most people in class about rather writing about Apocalypse Now than to write about Heart of Darkness. They are both very similar but because of Apocalypse Now, I can better understand the story since the reading was quite rough. The problem I have though, is that I can only focus on the military side to it. So, I guess I will write about how I feel about this mission. Is that ok? or do I still have to compare them both? is just hard to think of Heart of Darkness since I got lost in the reading at times, and dozed off a couple of times. Any better ideas?

Posts For Credit

By the way Mr. Crandall, these are my initial published posts. I couldn't have done it earlier due to lack of knowledge on how to post and not being able to log in. We have discussed this in class...and I hope you can accept these initial posts as credit...for however you grade us on your grading criteria. Anyhow, I'm sure it's just a formality.

I look forward to contributing more posts for the remainder of the semester...Thanks.

Reality Dou jour

We could not have been served with a plate of reality as well as this movie has served it to us! When we watched the movie in class...it was as if we were looking into the windows of someone elses life. From frame to frame we were given critical glimpses into the various decision making issues army men have to face within themselves...it's so bold! The emotional impact of the movie is so believable that it blows me away! It just goes to proove how much deeper human existance is for some people.

I am glad that we as a class can experience this together. We can all be witness to an experience beyond our own simple life. Assuredly, if we can educate ourselves...and learn to be more empathetic to eachothers struggles or causes...then assuredly this can become a better world.

Sanger

I totally agree with most of the posts for Margaret Sanger...she was a woman ahead of her time...but not in the totality of the depression she was in. She did make further advancements with the impeding issues of birth control that's for sure! For most women, who were SUFFERING from giving birth in general...there wasn't enough preventive measures women can take in this arena at the time. Women's lifestyles were spiraling downwards in society and in the economy respectively. All of these private issues were pressing for women...pretty much nobody stepped up to the plate until her. She underwent lots of harsh criticisms in her time. Demonstrative failures even lead to sub-issues...such as sterilization, racism, eugenics, and all matters SEXUAL!

We couldn't ask for a better leader...a better mentor to model ourselves after.

A woman who understood the dynamics of the position she was in given all of the hardships she has had to dispel from a micro point-of-view into a marco point-of-view.

Today's class discussion

Today in class, we had a discussion in regards to our troops being in war for, according to some people, no excused reason and I feel that I disagree with some of the things that were being pointed at and want to get them out of my chest. Feel free to put your personal input if you have something to say. Am sure everyone has an opinion on this.
First of all, I don't feel that we are there just to "kill" people. I think, we at times get so blinded with all the confusing media that rather goes to get their information with some people other than those ordinary people that have actually had interacted with the soldiers; and, forget our original purpose for going after this war. I am no way in favor of George Bush's decisions, but now that we (our troops, that is) are there, we might as well do what we need to do. In addition to that, I think that by being there, Americans are also setting an example of freedom to those Iraqi people that have been exposed to a very cruel treatment due to the regime in which they lived. Believe me, we are not worse than what they have experienced in their lifetime, our country is making them free.
Having said that, maybe instead of saying something so unacceptable as being there to "kill" people, we should at a minimum try to understand the other reasons why we are still there, realize that most of the countries we have fought against are either prosperous or just better (take Kuwait for instance) and that if wasn't because of our soldiers you wouldn't even have the freedom of speech you currently enjoy of. Also, if some countries such as Belgium have so much appreciation for our military (check d-day history, Bastogne historical center,)why do we disrespect our military or our country by calling it "world police" and even dare asking why aren't we looking after some other country. Our country is the country with the highest defense budget and does its best to help out the world yes, at our expense; however, if it is criticized already as it is, imagine if our troops were in every single country's business!

Reminder, Version II

No outline will be required for the essay due next week, despite what the class outline does say. Any outlines completed will be gratefully accepted and returned with comments, but the professor will base grades on the essay only.

Excercise PS

Just to be clear, the recent post with the unpunctuated paragraphs is NOT intended as homework. We're going to have a look at punctuating it in class next week, so you can work on punctuating it in the meantime or not, as you prefer.

Reminder

In writing the coming essay, I have to remind everyone that an outline has to be turned in along with the completed essay. I have not heard the professor bring it up in class, but it is written in the syllabus that we do so.

choice

I am glad Crandal gave us many choices to do our essay on, Am I correct we can choose from the speach,Heart of Darkness or the Birthcontrol. I feel I'd do a better job if I could write on the movie instead. It is a more current event, and some more detail was paid attention to the descrptive narraration. It was not so boaring as the book was. I just could not get into the book. The more I read it over and over and over, I could not comprehend what I was reading. I was just going threw the motion of word by word.

THIRD ESSAY???

Overall, the movie was very similar to the novel Heart of Darkness. However, I am having a hard time trying to decide on various topics for the third essay. I am thinking of writing my third essay on the idea of prejudiced behavior by the author of Heart of Darkness, towards the African Americans based on the author's selected language and demeaning portrayal of the African Americans.

book vs movie

I found that I was able to understand the movie alot better vs the book. I feel the movie gave me a more realistic view on what was happening. It was more clear to describe the tragic things that were going on, by viewing the movie now I some what understand the book. My personal feeling to the real vietnam war is we went in with no plan or any sence of direction. The orders were just kill,kill, kill. It's funny that in todays war, we went in for a mission to get a few main induviduals, and so far we have. We have made a great deal of accomplishments. It also seems that we are no longer in sight where our mission is now. The orders are still kill,kill,kill but in the same aspect we are getting ourself killed... We are kind of repeating history over and over again with hopes to get it right one day. Please dont get me wrong. I really do appreciate the troops giving up there life for us. That is why we inlist in the millitary. In the same light, looking back my question is "Have we really made a difference in some way in all the wars in general? WW1, WW2, Civle war, Vietnam, Desert storm, and todays war. Or have we exhausted ourselfs into thinking we still have a mission? Any one understand me? I come form a proud millitary family line and I have seen the good and the bad when we return. I myself was talked out of going into the army, I would have went to Desert Storm...

Excercise

Try punctuating these paragraphs adapted from A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, by James Joyce.

the slide was shot back the penitent emerged from the side of the bos the farther side was drawn a woman entered quietly and deftly where the first penitent had knelt the faint murmur began again

he could still leave the chapel he could stand up put one foot before the other and walk out softly and then run run run swiftly through the dark streets he could still escape from the shame had it been any terrible crime but that one sin had it been murder little fiery flakes fell and touched him at all points shameful thoughts shameful words shameful acts shame covered him wholly like fine glowing ashes falling continually to say it in words his soul stiflin and helpless would cease to be

the slide was shot back a penitent emerged from the farther side of the box the near side was drawn a penitent entered where the other penitent had come out a soft whispering noise floated in vaporous cloudlets out of the box it was the woman soft whispering cloudlets soft whispering vapour whispering and vanishing

Apocaypse Now

I watched the movie today, since I wasn't there Saturday. I thought it was interesting how one man said, to the Captian while eating Roast Beef,that good does not always triumph over evil. If you think about it, its really sad.Knowing that there is evil in the world,but there is also a balance of good which gives me hope. That statement that he said just made me ponder about today's standards. I also think, that Kurtz started to become crazy over the years; he became like a savage just as the people who worshiped him in the movie. In the movie, I didn't mention ivory though...did it?

Heart of Darness

Lets start throwing some essay topics around for the book and the movie. I am having a hard time trying to come up with something I can form a good thesis statement for. I am thinking of comparing Marrow with his corresponding character in Apocalypse Now.

Posting

The posts are looking good. Keep it up, and chime in some more. So far we have 52 posts total -- about the number we should have per week.

heart of darkness

Can anyone tell me what krutz meant when he said the "Horror! the Horror!" Was he talking about his experience and how the quest for ivory and power over came him, or just things he had seen while in Africa? Also when he said desroy them all, who was he talking about, was this supposed to make scense or had he just gone crazy?

Heart of Darkness

I was told that there is a movie by the name of Heart of Darkness, can anyone tell me how is this movie?
I believe that after watching Apocalypse Now, it will be easier to write on Apocalypse Now rather than Heart of Darkness. I can see many differences between the two.

Apocalypse Now

It was interesting how the movie "Apocalypse Now" was made from the novel "Heart of Darkness". As I watched the movie I saw everything that was in the story of "Heart of Darkness". The only difference from the book to the movie was the ending of the story in the book and that the movie was set in Vietnam. Watching the movie brought the book to life for me. It gave me a broader picture of all that was going on in the book. Did it help all of you get a better picture of the story in the book?

margaret sanger

I was really amazed after reading material on Margaret Sanger. She was a woman who was way before her time. Taking such a dramatic stance on the topic of birth control, made a huge impact in the 1920s'. I feel if it wasn't for woman like her, we as woman would probably all still be housewives.

Apocalypse Now

I was told that Apocalypse now is a very good movie. Im thinking of writting my 3rd essay on the movie.

Saturday class

On Saturday, we are only watching the movie right? Are we going to discuss it,or save that for next week? I wonder since it's Spring Break,and people are traveling that many people are going to be there on Saturday. I hope I am there on Saturday...

ESSAY # 3 ?

So has anyone thought of what they might write for the next essay? I was thinking maybe a scene in the movie that will be watching...and how it somehow connects to Heart Of Darkness...Im not so sure though.

Heart of Darkness

I had seen the movie "Apocolypse Now" many years ago. I am looking forward to watching the movie on Saturday. I am really interested in seeing how Mr. Crandall states that this movie is like the story "Heart of Darkness". I think discussing the movie with the class is going to open a whole new way of interpeting the movie. Has anyone who remembers the movie, Apocolypse Now, see the similarity of the story "Heart of Darkness"?