Debate

I AM SO NERVOUS FOR THE DEBATE ON SATURDAY!!! I have never taken a speech class before, so I am just going to get up there in front of the class and do the best I can!!!

TROUBLE, HELP!

I am having troble with looking for old bloggs that I have made. I have made numerous bloggs and responded to many, and when I go to see if there are any comments or to re read what I have entered I cant find it. I click on old bloggs to see them but when they apear there are many other ones but not mine. Is any one experienceing this problemb? If so let me know and if you can help let me know all help is apreciated thanks

In class Excercise III

Everything looked clean, new, and beautiful. I saw few or no dilapidated houses, with poverty-stricken inmates. No half-naked children, and bare-footed, such as I had been accustomed to see in Hillsborough Easton St. Michaels and Baltimore. The people looked more able, stronger, healthier, and happier than those of Maryland. I was for once made glad, by a view of extreme wealth without being saddened by seeing extreme poverty, but the most astonishing, as well as the most interesting thing to me was the condition of the colored people; a great many of whom, like myself had escaped thither as a refuge from the hunters of men. I found many who had not been seven years out of their chains, living in finer houses and evidentially enjoying more of the comforts of life than those of the average slaveholders in Maryland. I will venture to assert that my friend, Mr. Nathan Johnson, of whom I can say with a grateful heart:
“I was hungry he gave me meat. I was thirsty and he gave me drink. I was a stranger and he took me in, lived in a neater house, and dined at a better table.”
Read more and better understood the moral, religious and political character of the nation, than nine-tenths of the slaveholders in Talbot County, Maryland.

Research paper

Has anyone started their research paper yet? I was going to do it on my debate subject, but I thought it was to sad...so I thought I would research about marriage and families. What are you guys writing about?

MLA Format

Byron, Joe. "The Blue Door." Trans. Pamela Ezell. The Online Literary Journal of Chapman University. 18 May 2007. http://www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx//backissues/summer98/thebluedoor.htm.

Cohan, Tony. On Mexican Time. New York: Broadway Books, 2001. 1-304.

Carol Beckwith, Fisher, Angela. "The African Roots of Voodoo." National Geographic 2nd ser. 188 (1995). 18 May 2007.

Secrets of the Ocean Deep. Dir. Howard Hall.Time Warner Home Video. Videocassette.

debates

i believe using the rest of the time we have left, until debates day, helpful to all of us. What do you guys think?

In class cite excercise

Bryon, Joe. "The Blue Door." Online Literary Journal. Ed Pamela Ezell. http://www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx/backissues/summer98/theBlueDoor.htm May 19 2007

internet citing

Bryon, Joe. “The Blue Door.” Online literary journal . 05/19/07.

Internet Cite listing

Bryon, Joe. “The Blue Door.” Online Literary Journal. Ed Pamela Ezell 18 May 2007.

Corrected Exercise

Bryon, Joe. "The Blue Door." Online Literary Journal. www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx/. Summer 1998, 18 May 2007.

MLA citation exercise

Bryon, Joe. "The Blue Door." Online journal. ed. Pamela Ezell
http://www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx/backissues/summer98/theBlueDoor.htm
18 May 2007.

Exercises

This is what I came up with.

Byron, Joe. "The Blue Door". Online Literary Journal. www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx/. Summer 1998, 18 May 2007.

Blog posting

Why not post about debate and research projects?

Also, there's nothing wrong with posting about the grammar excercises. There are more than a half-dozen excercizes there.

There are many situations in writing where it works well to hang back and consider an idea thoroughly before doing anything. This blog is probably not one of them.

How can we post, if we do not have anything to post about.

My argument is...at this point in our English class...we no longer have anything to post about because we are all working on our debate projects and we literally have to keep those topics on the down low. I as sure as I am would like to earn credit for blogging…but what about?

Research Paper

Can our research paper be on anything that we are interested about or does it have to be on what we are debating on?

Work cited

After class I was still a little confused about the work sited exercise. In the exercise when we did the work sited for the poem. Why was it not correct to put the title of the poem as a subtitle?

Cecar Chavez

I wanted to write about this article I found it fascinating how the land belongs to Venezuela, but it is controlled by other nations. I did not think I would have had enough time to write a good paper on this topic. How did every one else decide what to write about and how did you (the class) go about writing the paper.

Paragraph Revised in Class

During the Vietnam War, some of the many men and women faced emotional, mental, and physical concerns. The movie Apocalypse Now, directed by Francis Ford Coppola, portrays a sense of lunacy in certain of the scenes and characters. The boat crew members--Chef, Chief, Lance, and Clean--help guide Willard (the main character, played by Martin Sheen) up the river to complete his classified mission in search of former Green Beret Colonel Walter E. Kurtz.

Blog Past Posting

Has any figued out how to review the past posting on the blog? I only can review what is on the first page of the blog. This makes it hard for me to make any comments on the past blogs. Is anyone else having this same problem.

WORK CITED

Today's class sure did help me with the way we need to work cite. It is important to document all the important information.
The last work cited we did, I had some problems with. Now that I see the answer, I reread the problem and now see how it had all the information in it.

hard to keep up with the posting

I have had a little hard time finding things to post in our blog every week. If anyone has any ideas please post

in class work - MLA

William, William Carlos. The Pot of Flowers. Ed. A Walton Litz and Christopher MacGowen. New york:
New Directions, 1991.

Margaret Sanger

I found while doing some research on my debate that Margaret Sanger was a contributer to the" kkk" Who knew? I thought all along that she was some one of great respect. Does any one share my opin. She gave speeches at their gatherings and suported their finances. I feel diferent about her now.

MLA Citing Excercise

Williams, William Carlos. Spring and All: The Pot of Flowers. Collected Poems of Wiliam Carlos Williams. First Ed. A Walton Litz. Christopher MacGowen. New York: New Directions, 1991.

In-Class Blog Exercise

In-Blog exercise

Carlos Williams, William. Spring and all: Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams, The Pot of Flowers. Ed. 1. Litz, A Walton & MacGowan, Christopher. New York: New Directions, 1991.

Spring and All

Williams, William Carlos. Spring and All: The Pot of Flowers. 1st paperback Ed. A.Walton Litz and Christopher Mac Gowan. New York: New Directions, 1991

class exercise

Carlos Williams, William. Flowers Which was originally. Spring 1923 v1(184)

In-class Citation Exercise

Williams, William. Spring and All: The Pot of Flowers. Vols 1. Ed A. Walton Litz and Christopher MacGowan. New York: New Directions, 1991

MLA citation exercise

Williams, Williams. Spring: The Pot of Flowers.Vol1. Ed A. Walton Litz and Christopher MacGowan. New York: New Directions, 1991.

Class exercise

Williams, William. Collected Poems. Ed A. Litz and Christopher MacGowan. New York: New Directions, 1991.

Citation by Tim Wagner

Williams, William. Spring and All The Pot of Flowers. 1st Vols. 1st Paperback ed. Ed Walton Litz and Christopher MacGowan. New York: New Directions, 1991.

MLA-Style

Carlos Williams, William. Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams: The Pot of Flowers. 1st vol. Ed A. Walton Litz and Christopher MacGowan. New York: New Directions, 1991.

POST ENTRY TO BLOG

Williams, William Carlos,"The Pot of Flowers." Collected Poems.2 vols. A. Wa lton Litz and Christopher MacGowan. eds.New York; New Directions,1991

In class work - MLA

Williams, William Carlos. The Pot of Flowers. Ed. A. Walton Litz and Christopher MaGowan.
New York: New Direction, 1991.

When I did some research at Mt Sac library, and E-mailed the articles to my self it came with this format citing the work

Page, Randy M., and Jon Hammermeister. "Weapon-carrying and youth violence." Adolescence 32.n127 (Fall 1997): 505(9). Expanded Academic ASAP. Thomson Gale. Mount San Antonio College. 6 May. 2007
.
Abstract:

DEBATE QUESTIONS

I AM GOING TO DEBATE ON ABORTION PRO CHOICE, I HAVE ACCESS TO MANY DOCTORS AND HAVE INTERVIEWED NUMEROUS NURSES, MY QUESTION TO ALL IS DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MEDICALY THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN OR ARE EMBARRASED TO ASK? I HAVE FOUND THAT I HAVE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AND GET THE SAME ANSWERS. I'D LIKE TO SEE IF ANY ONE OF MY CLASSMATES HAVE A QUESTION THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN ASKED BEFORE. PLEASE NO RELIGIOUS OR MORALITY QUESTIONS. IN THE MEDICAL FIELD WE TAKE AN OATH TO BE OPEN MIND AND NOT JUDGE PEOPLE, RESPECT THEIR CHOICE, IF ANY ONE CAN HELP LET ME KNOW

Introspections of a writer....

What does it mean to be a good writer? How can one eat, sleep, and breath everyday without having a sincere consciousness about who, what, where, when, why, or how he is? We ask ourselves these questions daily. When we brake through our own barriers - through the challenges that we all face, weather tumultuous or gracious...we still accomplish it within our minds. We strive to continue – hopefully unbiased to each others plights with the sincere mission to understand what danger is ahead. Reading does this for me. It lets me reach out from the bubble that I am in. I can create my own destiny and write it with a passion and a fervor I never thought I’ve had before. If it is a power – then let it be called that. All I know that when it is in my hands, it is put to good use. The power of imagination reaches so many people…as an adult…I’m glad I can still wield it…because life would end without dreams.

WHAT?

I saw this written as a comment:

"I think Bill mention that we need to defend our partners; however, if your group's debate is good, result of the argument won't reduce your point."

This is regarding the debates...what exactly does this mean? Can someone elaborate for me? Bill?

Keats

Wow! In class essays are so daunting! I didn’t know how I should choose from three topics that I was at least somewhat of an expert on. Maybe, some of you guys could shed some light on the experience you’ve had with the last in-class essay?

I do have some minor complaints about it. I did find it somewhat exciting that we were all on a sort of quest of writing…but did not find it particularly enjoyable that I was rushed. I guess it is a downfall from not paying too much attention in elementary school…that I don’t have the rudimentary skills to pace myself. Then, editing was another story all together. If Mr. Crandall didn’t give us enough time to finish…I don’t think I would have survived from that experience in one piece. Anyhow, I wrote on Keats…because it allowed for more creative writing.

I found Keats enjoyable because I was allowed free reign to critique his writing without actually knowing of his work. I love poetry. To me this piece spoke of volumes about ones philosophical experience or the discovery of it. Everybody is either discovering, experiencing, or endowing revelations in mystical magical ways…so that our spirits can be moved beyond our own common understanding of the world.

Keats was writing to his friend, who he is obviously trying to make a grand impression. I believe that Keats was experiencing the omnipresence of God. He was being moved by the splendor & beauty of creation that was indeed flowing through him – as everyone was a sort of conduit to the energy of their environment. This was one mans experience, one mans point of view. I’m sure if everyone were to write how they felt at that particular time, we would have seen some similarities…

Dabate What?

The debate sounds like a good idea. I am not certain that it will be well enough defined to be very effective though. I am on the side of pro gun control. This is a huge subject for a single debate. It is going to be very difficult to try and find counter arguments when the subject matter is so large. It would have been nice if the proffessor helped us narrow it down a little.

I think I am going to write my research paper on the same subject that I am debating. I am debating gun controll. I spoke with the professor about my thesis. I was having a hard time thinking of one. The subject of gun control is so large where do you begin. He helped me narrow it down to whether or not the federal government should be in control. I think this is a more managable subject, even thought you could easily write a book on it. Now I have to start my outline. I am not real sure what I am going to base it on. I guess I will have to start my research so that I will know how to organize my outline.

Punctuating Interjections and Lists

Melroes0914 has kindly contributed a paragraph that has some hard-to-punctuate lists and interjections. I have edited it a little so the class can re-solve some of the issues. Everyone should have a look at this for next week:

During the Vietnam War, some of the many men, and women faced emotional, mental, and or physical concerns. The movie, Apocalypse Now (directed by Francis Ford Coppola) portrays a sense of lunacy in certain of the scenes, and characters throughout the film. The main character, Willard, (Martin Sheen)), and the boat crew members, Chef, Chief, Lance, and Clean, help guild Willard up the river to complete his classified mission. In search of Colonel Kurtz, a former Green Beret, Willard; Chief; Chef; and Lance are always alert, as they travel through the Vietnamese jungle up the Nung River to let Willard complete his mission, execute Kurtz.

Iran and Imperialism

Just FYI for the students who chose to write about imperialism today. This is from http://www.chomsky.info. Click on "Articles," and then choose the top article, "What if Iran Invaded Mexico?"

Doubtless Iran's government merits harsh condemnation, including for its recent actions that have inflamed the crisis. It is, however, useful to ask how we would act if Iran had invaded and occupied Canada and Mexico and was arresting U.S. government representatives there on the grounds that they were resisting the Iranian occupation (called "liberation," of course). Imagine as well that Iran was deploying massive naval forces in the Caribbean and issuing credible threats to launch a wave of attacks against a vast range of sites -- nuclear and otherwise -- in the United States, if the U.S. government did not immediately terminate all its nuclear energy programs (and, naturally, dismantle all its nuclear weapons). Suppose that all of this happened after Iran had overthrown the government of the U.S. and installed a vicious tyrant (as the US did to Iran in 1953), then later supported a Russian invasion of the U.S. that killed millions of people (just as the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein's invasion of Iran in 1980, killing hundreds of thousands of Iranians, a figure comparable to millions of Americans). Would we watch quietly?

MLA Documentation Excercise

Create an MLA Bibliography from these Statements --

(We may not get ot this until next week)

Last week I finished Sophie Wilkins translation of Robert Musil's book, "The Man Without Qualities." It was published on the eastern seaboard of the United States by Alfred Knopf in New York in 1994. I'm thinking of citing a statement by the character Clarisse on page 1061 of the second volume.

I may refer to an editorial cartoon, copyright 1976 by Eduardo del Rio, who calls himself Rius. I found the cartoon in a book called La trukulenta historia del kapitalismo in the thirteenth edition, published in 1988 by a company called Editorial Posada, which gives its address as La Otra Banda No. 74 in Col. Tizapan San Angel, Deleg. Alvaro Obregon, CP 01090, Mexico, DF, which I know is located in Mexico City, Mexico.

On the one hundred eighty-fourth page of the first volume of the Collected Poems of William Carlos Williams, I found a poem called The Pot of Flowers which was originally collected in 1923 in his book Spring and All. Williams himself owns the copyright. I can't find the original publisher of Spring and All, but my edition of C.P. was put out in New York, like so many things, by an establishment called New Directions, and it was edited by A. Walton Litz and Christopher MacGowan. The collection was first published in 1986, and my edition is the first paperback edition, published in 1991. Robert Pinsky reviewed the book well, writing for the New York Times Book Review in 1991.

Last night I accessed an online literary journal at http://www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx/. I found a strange story with pictures called the blue door. The exact address was

http://www.chapman.edu/comm/english/onyx/backissues/summer98/theBlueDoor.htm

Other information elsewhere on the site lists a Joe Bryon as the sole author of the text. No translator or editor is mentioned, though the site lists itself as having been edited "under the direction of" someone named Pamela Ezell, who is listed as the pro-tem director of a creative writing program at a Chapman University. No specific date is given for the publication of the issue in question. Accessing the site at www.chapman.edu/, I found information that the university itself is in Orange, California.

Tony Cohan reads his book On Mexican Time in three cassettes published by Random House in New York, New York in May of 2000. Random House sells its audiobooks at www.randomhouse.com/audio. The audio version was abridged with the author's approval from a print version published in the same year and available from Broadway Books, also in New York.

While watching a PBS video last Sunday, I was surprised to hear yet another relevant comment. The video series is called Secrets of the Ocean Realm, and the comment was made during a section entitled Filming Secrets. It was produced by Howard Hall Productions and directed by Howard Hall himself. It lasts sixty minutes and has been published on Time Warner Home Video in New York City. I checked it out of the Santa Ana Library last week, but I can't seem to find an author of text, an editor, or a publication date anywhere on this worn and water-damaged package.

A Website I checked out referred to an old national geographic, and I looked up the article in question in Volume 188, No. 2, published in August of 1995 by the National Geographic Society in Washington DC. The article was titled The African Roots of Voodoo, lists Angela Fisher and Carol Beckwith as both authors and photographers, though I suspect they must have divided the labor somehow.

Chavez Gets Control of Oil Companies in Venezuela

PUERTO PIRITU, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela stripped the world's biggest oil companies of operational control over massive Orinoco Belt crude projects on Tuesday, a vital move in President Hugo Chavez's nationalization drive.

The May Day takeover came exactly a year after Bolivian President Evo Morales, a leftist ally of Chavez, startled investors by ordering troops to seize his country's gas fields, accelerating Latin America's struggle to reclaim resources.

"The importance of this is that we are taking back control of the Orinoco Belt which the president rightly calls the world's biggest crude reserve," said Marco Ojeda, an oil union leader before a planned rally to mark the transfer.

The four projects are valued at more than $30 billion and can convert about 600,000 barrels per day (bpd) of heavy, tarry crude into valuable synthetic oil.

U.S. companies ConocoPhillips, Chevron, Exxon Mobil, Britain's BP, Norway's Statoil and France's Total agreed to obey a decree to transfer operational control on Tuesday, although the OPEC nation complained ConocoPhillips was somewhat resistant.

In Puerto Piritu, near the facilities that refine Orinoco crude, workers prepared early on Tuesday to celebrate the takeovers, displaying Venezuelan red, blue and yellow flags and daubing a wall with Chavez's slogan: "Homeland, Socialism or Death."
The anti-American leader was also in a festive mood before a rally marking what he called the end of an era of U.S.-prescribed policies that opened up the largest oil reserves in the hemisphere to foreign investment.

"Open investment will never return," he said on Monday to thousands of cheering workers dressed in the signature red of his self-styled leftist revolution at a rally for workers rights.

"We are sealing up that open investment era and burying it deep down in the Orinoco oil reserve," he added.

(The whole article is at http://commienews.blogspot.com/2007/05/venezuela-siezes-big-oil-companies.html.)

Debate sequence

The order of events in our debates will be like so:

In a 3 vs 3 debate:

1. First pro speaker speaks 5 minutes and presents the debate proposition from the Pro POV, and supports it as well as possible.

2. Cross-Examination -- One speaker from the con side stands with the first pro speaker and asks questions, and only asks questions. The pro speaker only answers questions. Typically, the questioner's strategy is to attempt to pin the speaker down to specific statements that can later be attacked. The speaker, of course, whats to be sure to properly qualify his or her opinion.

3. First Con Speech -- the first con speaker states the con disagreement with the pro position and supports that, rebutting the pro arguments, and adding whatever other arguments the con side may find useful.

4. A pro speaker cross-examines the con speaker just as a con speaker cross-examined the first pro speaker.

5. The second pro speaker defends the first pro speaker's positions insofar as they have been attacked, attacks the first con speaker's arguments insofar as that may be done, points out where the con team has failed to answer or adequately answer the pro argument, and introduces any new arguments that the first speakers may have failed to mention.

6. Cross examination.

7. The second con speaker rebutts the second pro speaker, defending the first con argument and attacking the pro arguments.

8. Another cross examination.

9. The third pro speaker gives the concluding pro speech, hopefully wrapping up all arguments into a convincing conclusion for the pro side.

10. The third con speaker gives the concluding speech, hopefully wrapping up all arguments into a convincign conclusion for the con side.

As you can probably tell by the format, it makes no sense to try to divide a topic into various aspects in order to have individual speakers specialize in different aspects of the topic. For instance, an abortion debate may have moral, social, and medical aspects, to name only a few; a speaker who prepares to deal with only moral issues may be poorly prepared to defend the arguments of a first speaker who presented social or medical issues. Likewise, a speaker who opens the debate by addressing only one small part of the overall question has probably not made a very effective argument, since any informed decision regarding the topics you have decided to debate would involve the weighing of many factors.

John Keats' to Benjamin Bailey, November 22, 1817

"I am certain of nothing but the holiness of the heart's affections and the truth of imagination -- What the imagination seizes as beauty must be truth -- whether it existed before or not -- for I have the same idea of all our passions as of love they are all in their sublime, creative of essential beauty -- in a word, you may know my favorite speculation by my first book and the little song I sent in my last -- which is a representation from the fancy of the provable mode of operating in these matters -- The imagination may be compared to Adam's dream [in Paradise Lost VIII 460-490] -- he awoke and found it truth. I am the more zealous in this affair, because I have never yet been able to perceive how any thing can be known for truth by consecutive reasoning -- and yet it must be -- Can it be that even the greatest philosopher ever arrived at his goal without putting aside numerous objections -- However it may be, O for a life of sensations rather than thoughts! It is 'a vision in the form of youth' a shadow of reality to come . . . "

The "Adam" Keats refers to is a character in John Milton's Paradise Lost, The passages dealing with his dream are in VIII 460-490.

Leaves of Grass, Song of Myself 6

A child said What is the grass? fetching it to me with full hands;
How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he.

I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green
stuff woven.

Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord,
A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt,
Bearing the owner's name someway in the corners, that we may see
and remark, and say Whose?

Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation.

Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic,
And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones,
Growing among black folks as among white,
Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I
receive them the same.

And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves.

Tenderly will I use you curling grass,
It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men,
It may be if I had known them I would have loved them,
It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken soon out
of their mothers' laps,
And here you are the mothers' laps.

This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers,
Darker than the colorless beards of old men,
Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths.

O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues,
And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing.

I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women,
And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken
soon out of their laps.

What do you think has become of the young and old men?
And what do you think has become of the women and children?

They are alive and well somewhere,
The smallest sprout shows there is really no death,
And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the
end to arrest it,
And ceas'd the moment life appear'd.

All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses,
And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier.